{"id":36863,"date":"2025-04-24T11:51:45","date_gmt":"2025-04-24T09:51:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/?post_type=interviews&#038;p=36863"},"modified":"2025-04-24T11:53:15","modified_gmt":"2025-04-24T09:53:15","slug":"eng-ita-interview-with-alle-conti-trick-or-treat","status":"publish","type":"interviews","link":"https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/interviews\/eng-ita-interview-with-alle-conti-trick-or-treat\/","title":{"rendered":"[ENG\/ITA] Interview with Alle Conti (TRICK OR TREAT)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>With their brand-new album &#8220;Ghosted&#8221; dropping tomorrow, Italian power metal force Trick or Treat are ready to unleash their most ambitious and playful work to date. Packed with energy, easter eggs, and their signature theatrical style, the band continues to blur the lines between heavy music, fantasy, and pure fun.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>We caught up with frontman Alessandro Conti, also known for his epic vocal work with Twilight Force, just before the big release. In our chat, Alle opens up about working again with producer Simone Mularoni, crafting a visually rich album artwork full of hidden references, and keeping the live show alive and fresh across the globe. Whether you\u2019ve been following Trick or Treat since their early days or you&#8217;re just tuning in now, this is a must-read for any fan of power metal, great storytelling, and a good laugh.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>[ENG]<\/strong> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Hi Alle, long time no see! Welcome to Heavyworlds.com, how are things going?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Hi Pinka, how are you? I&#8217;m good, I&#8217;m here, going on tour and everything&#8217;s good.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Good, good, thanks, doing a thousand things as usual, I haven&#8217;t changed on that front (laughs), I imagine between Trick or Treat and Twilight Force, you&#8217;re super busy!<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeah, yeah, pretty busy!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>How is the promotion of the new album going?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s going well, we did a great tour with Nanowar and Dynazty, we\u2019ve been home for about ten days\/two weeks. Actually, it wasn\u2019t exactly a promotion of the new album, but we played a couple of new songs, and they seem to have been well received. Now, in the next few weeks, the real promotion will start!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>&#8220;Ghosted&#8221; marks a new chapter for Trick or Treat, with a mix of power metal and horror atmospheres. How did the idea of combining the more ironic and carefree side of your music with this horror aspect come about?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>It came after &#8220;<strong><em>Creepy Symphonies<\/em><\/strong>&#8220;, where we had already hinted at these atmospheres in some songs. It worked well, and I think now we are a bit better identified with this sound, we stand out in the sea of power metal bands out there. I think this distinctive feature in our sound can tell us something more, so we pushed a bit more on that side, but always with an ironic streak. Let\u2019s say, not exactly horror, but more with little chills, rather than real horror!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Was there a specific moment when you decided &#8220;<em>okay, this will be our new concept<\/em>,&#8221; meaning the horror theme?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, let\u2019s say that the very first songs we wrote with Luca, the first ones we did, were exactly &#8220;<strong><em>Ghosted<\/em><\/strong>&#8221; and &#8220;<strong><em>Bloodmoon<\/em><\/strong>&#8220;, which have a pretty horror vibe. Then he wrote another song with a bit of this mood, and we also wrote &#8220;<strong><em>Dance With The Dancing Clown<\/em><\/strong>&#8220;, which falls into this same mood. We liked how it was coming, so we decided to keep that line. However, we also included more traditionally power metal songs, like &#8220;<strong><em>Make A Difference<\/em><\/strong>&#8221; or &#8220;<em><strong>Polybius<\/strong><\/em>&#8220;, which have nothing to do with horror, they are more in the &#8220;<em>Trick or Treat old style<\/em>&#8220;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Speaking of the tracklist, did you choose a precise sequence for the songs, maybe trying to create a narrative thread, or was it a spontaneous decision?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>No, there\u2019s no narrative thread because all the songs are disconnected from each other, even if there\u2019s a sort of pop horror culture theme. But we mainly thought about the flow of the tracklist, because in a power metal album usually it starts with a nice speed song. Actually, this time, no, we started with \u201c<em><strong>Craven Road<\/strong><\/em>,\u201d which is almost a mid-tempo. The first track isn\u2019t very fast, but it had an intro that transitioned well, in the same key. Then we put \u201c<strong><em>Bloodmoon<\/em><\/strong>\u201d right after, so it\u2019s almost an opener. After that, we alternated a bit, placing fast songs next to slower ones to create variation and avoid boredom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>\u201c<em>Evil Dead Never Sleeps<\/em>\u201d is your tribute to Army of Darkness and the Evil Dead saga. How did you try to recreate the grotesque atmosphere of those films through music?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>That\u2019s a track that was written by Guido, completely by Guido, both lyrics and music, and it\u2019s obviously one of his favorite films, I mean, a horror cult classic. But I think it fits very well with Trick or Treat\u2019s attitude, because it\u2019s a horror movie that also has a lot of funny moments. So we liked the idea. It wasn\u2019t planned from the start, actually, the music for \u201c<strong><em>Evil Dead<\/em><\/strong>\u201d was already written without lyrics. Then, while thinking about the lyrics, we considered various films that could work, and that one fit well. There\u2019s also a sort of gothic interlude, with epic choirs, where it says something like \u201c<em>your truth is annihilated<\/em>\u201d or something like that. Thinking about that line, it seemed perfect for that moment, and so Guido wrote the lyrics based on that mood.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>On the other hand, \u201cBitter Dreams,\u201d inspired by Nightmare on Elm Street, how did you play with the melodies and the atmosphere to evoke the nightmare and terror typical of Freddy Krueger?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeah, so that one starts out as a ballad, actually, like a lullaby. This track was also completely written by Guido, but it starts like a lullaby that initially throws you off, in the sense that it doesn\u2019t seem like a horror movie, but rather a song that talks about a horror movie. We wanted to give the impression that it\u2019s almost a lullaby that puts you to sleep, and then it kicks in with a more aggressive energy. It also references the main theme from Nightmare, as a tribute, obviously. At the end, there are the little girls\u2019 choirs singing, which are actually the real choirs from the movie, extracted directly. Hopefully no one sues us (<em>laughs<\/em>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>I know nothing!<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>So yeah, we put a few easter eggs inside, but the song has a longer outro.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Besides drawing inspiration from horror films, you also took inspiration from video games, like <em>Return to Monkey Island<\/em>. What pushed you to dedicate a song to that in an album so focused on horror?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Because we were on tour last year, and also a year and a half ago, with Alestorm for a few dates, and we became pretty good friends, especially with Chris. I collaborated with him on his side project outside of Alestorm, called <em>Fr\u00f8gg\u00eb<\/em>. An album didn\u2019t come out, but we did a couple of singles that did pretty well. But it\u2019s not really a proper recording project. We formed a good connection and, spending a lot of time on tour with Alestorm, we thought: \u201c<em>Why don\u2019t we do a slightly more pirate-themed track<\/em>?\u201d So I said: if it\u2019s pirate-themed, in line with what we do, <em><strong>Monkey Island<\/strong><\/em> is one of my all-time favorite video games, doing a tribute to that with Chris would be amazing. So we wrote the song specifically for Chris, thinking of it like writing a song for Alestorm. For us, it was a song we could give to Alestorm and say, \u201c<em>Play it on your album.<\/em>\u201d But actually, we also added, Luca added some really creepy arrangements, like spooky scales and such, so it became kind of a \u201ccreepy pirate\u201d song, which I think is a great mix. So yeah, the whole thing was born around the guest. Usually, you pick the guest once the song is done, but in this case we thought: \u201c<em>What kind of song could we write for Chris?<\/em>\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Another guest on the album is Adrienne Cowen, how did the collaboration with her come about?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>It came about because we were on tour together with Twilight Force. Seven Spires supported Twilight Force on the European tour where Twilight Force were the headliners. Even there, we had already collaborated with Adrienne for the <em>Frozen<\/em> cover, so we knew each other, even if not in person. But yeah, a month on tour together, we became friends. She\u2019s a very talented person, really a cool person. So we thought, already while we were on tour, I\u2019d really like to record something with her. In fact, on the last Seven Spires album, she wrote two songs. One song where we do an actual 50\/50 duet, and another one where I sing a small part. So yeah, two songs where she had me as a guest. So we also wrote a track knowing that she would be on it, so in this case too it was kind of tailored for her. I thought of a more gothic vibe, kind of Kamelot-style, and such, also because <em>Castlevania<\/em>, even the song itself, is dedicated to <em>Castlevania<\/em>, another video game. In fact, while we were on tour, she was the one who introduced me to the <em>Castlevania<\/em> anime series on Netflix. While we were on tour, she showed it to me because it\u2019s really cool, so during the off-days and rest days, I watched it. Actually, the song pretty much covers the first two episodes of the anime, where Dracula marries a human, and then the humans kill Dracula\u2019s wife, and he totally loses it, rightly so. Kind of like that.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>This part I missed, I\u2019ll have to catch up on it. Over the years, you\u2019ve collaborated with some big names, but is there still someone you dream of working with, either as a guest or on tour?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>On tour, anyone who&#8217;s bigger than us in the power metal scene is a work opportunity, we&#8217;re always happy to open and collaborate. I\u2019d say Helloween, but in the end, we\u2019ve already toured with Helloween, so that\u2019s covered. There are a lot of bands, but honestly, we\u2019ve already worked with most of the bands we were fans of. Sooner or later, we\u2019ve collaborated with them. We\u2019ve toured with Helloween, Stratovarius, Sonata Arctica, so the idols we had as kids, we\u2019ve already shared the stage with them. That doesn\u2019t mean we wouldn\u2019t love to share it again, why not? But in terms of guests, there are still so many. For example, Kotipelto, we invited him years ago, but he couldn\u2019t join due to other commitments. He was supposed to sing on <em>Rabbits\u2019 Hill Part 1<\/em>, we had offered it to him, but it didn\u2019t happen. Still, he\u2019s a legendary name we haven\u2019t collaborated with yet. As for the others, aside from a few massive names that are kind of out of reach, we\u2019ve already worked with many, so I consider myself very lucky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Back to the album, this time the artwork was done by you. What were the key elements you absolutely wanted to include on the cover?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>With the artwork, I usually try, though not always, to include easter eggs from the songs. I already did this with the <em><strong>Re-Animated<\/strong><\/em> cover, not so much with <em><strong>Creepy Symphonies<\/strong><\/em>, but on this album, there\u2019s a reference to every track. Some are really hard to spot, hard to find, but there are references for each song. Then, <em><strong>Ghosted<\/strong><\/em> really captured the atmosphere. It matched perfectly with the song, which we liked using as the title track, and it\u2019s also short, which we liked. I wanted a one-word title for this album, because we\u2019ve always used compound words or phrases, and <em><strong>Ghosted<\/strong><\/em> was perfect. It\u2019s a song that\u2019s really important on the album, both in terms of message and content. It also ties into our stage presence, because we use giant inflatable ghosts, which over the last few tours have become a signature part of our stage setup. So we were able to emphasize that even more, and it all came together perfectly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"548\" src=\"https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-1024x548.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-36869\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-1024x548.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-300x160.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-768x411.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-1536x821.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-810x433.jpg 810w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-1140x610.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>The metal world, especially power metal, has always had a strong connection to iconography, fantasy, and sometimes horror. In your opinion, is it still important today to have a clear visual aesthetic, or should the music speak for itself?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, music should always be able to speak for itself, because if it doesn\u2019t, and you have a good aesthetic, it\u2019s useless. But today, compared to the past, the aesthetic is much more important, because so much more is shared through images and videos on social media. A band\u2019s identity now comes across much more visually than before. In the past, maybe you\u2019d see a band every three years when a CD dropped, in a magazine interview with a photo shoot, or if they played near your city. Now, if you post online every week, fans see you constantly, so your visual identity has to be\u2026 not necessarily there, but usually it\u2019s more polished. This also leads to extremes like \u201cCosplay Metal\u201d with bands like Twilight Force, who really focus on visuals, or Wind Rose, or many others who emphasize their image as much as their music. To me, that\u2019s not a flaw, it\u2019s an added value when the music has something to say and the image enhances it. When the music sucks, and the image is just surface-level, then it gives nothing to the band. But generally, nowadays, there\u2019s a bigger effort to personalize the visual world of a band, not just the music. It\u2019s not enough to just make music anymore. I mean, if your music isn\u2019t good, you won\u2019t get far, but just making good music isn\u2019t enough either.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Back to <em>Ghosted<\/em>, you recorded the album with Simone Mularoni, a producer you\u2019ve worked with before. What was it like returning to the studio with him? Was there any specific moment where he made a crucial contribution to the album?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, Mularoni has always made crucial contributions. Pretty much every Trick or Treat album, except one, the <em><strong>The Legend Of The XII Saints<\/strong><\/em> one, because he couldn\u2019t follow the production due to the format of releasing a song each month for a year, was produced by him. Since 2005, he\u2019s worked with us. One of the first albums he produced was &#8220;<em><strong>Evil Needs Candy Too<\/strong><\/em>&#8220;, which was our debut, it might have even been his first, I\u2019m not sure, but definitely one of the first. So he knows us inside out and always gives fundamental input. Often we show up at the studio with a song that\u2019s 90% done, but we know something\u2019s missing, some cool arrangement or touch, so we ask his opinion. And whatever he suggests always works, because he\u2019s an external ear to the band. I have my vocal lines, the others play them the way I imagine, but then in the studio he might say, \u201c<em>Why did you choose that note? If you resolve it like this, it sounds much better<\/em>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Was there a funny moment during the <em>Ghosted<\/em> recordings? Any fun stories?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Not one in particular, it was all generally quite fun. The atmosphere is always super relaxed. This time, like the last few times, the production schedule was so tight, we don\u2019t have that many days in the studio, so we had to work very fast. The fun parts were maybe the lunch breaks, when we\u2019d go to eat at Sara Squadrani\u2019s restaurant, she has a place in Rimini now. So we\u2019d head over to Squadrani\u2019s to eat tortellini\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Nice, nice! I still have to go, I have to visit Saretta at some point. So, if you could go back in time and have a legendary metal singer, who\u2019s no longer with us, sing on one of your songs, who would it be and on which track?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Ronnie James Dio on &#8220;<em><strong>Premonition<\/strong><\/em>&#8221; from <em><strong>Rabbits\u2019 Hill Part 1<\/strong><\/em>. That song was written by Cabri, who\u2019s no longer in the band, but it had a kind of Rainbow vibe to it in terms of theme. He also would\u2019ve been perfect on one of the songs about Taurus from <em><strong>The Legend Of The XII Saints<\/strong><\/em>, one of those two tracks.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>You\u2019ve got a very loyal fanbase in Italy, but you\u2019re also loved abroad. Where have you found the warmest fans outside of Italy? Is there a country where playing live is always a special experience?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Definitely South America. We only played there once recently, but the energy and warmth from the crowd were incredible, really intense and cool. Japan also has a very dedicated fanbase, especially for European metal. We\u2019ve been there twice with Trick or Treat and twice more with Twilight Force, and the shows are always sold out, so it\u2019s always an awesome experience. In Europe, I always enjoy going back to Budapest, Hungary. We\u2019ve had some amazing shows there, even recently. We played at Barba Negra twice in six months, it\u2019s the best metal venue over there. And we even wrote the song &#8220;<em><strong>Hungarian Hangover<\/strong><\/em>&#8221; about our time there, which became quite a hit for the band, it\u2019s one of our most streamed tracks on Spotify. Plus, our booking agency is based in Budapest, so I\u2019m always happy to return.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Has anything unexpected ever happened during a live show? Any on-stage mistakes?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>On our most recent tour, we had a short set, only 40 minutes. We play with a click track and pre-recorded keyboard backing tracks, so we have to play exactly in time and stick to the selected setlist. Every night, we\u2019d switch up the setlist a bit, swapping in two or three songs since we weren\u2019t playing super long sets but were revisiting venues we\u2019d played months earlier. One night, we were supposed to play eight songs, I think &#8220;<em><strong>Evil Needs Candy Too<\/strong><\/em>&#8221; was up next, and I announced it on stage. But Dario had forgotten to load one of the tracks into the mixer. So we announced the song, and\u2026 nothing happened. We had to skip it. That night we played one less song, and I ended up talking to the crowd a bit longer to fill the time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"994\" src=\"https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-12-1024x994.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-36870\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-12-1024x994.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-12-300x291.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-12-768x745.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-12-810x786.jpg 810w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-12.jpg 1125w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>After so many years in music, what does making music mean to you today? Has your relationship with your passion changed since the beginning?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Honestly, no, it hasn\u2019t changed in spirit. What has changed is how professional everything has become. In the early years, any excuse was a good one to hop on stage and play, in any condition. Now, of course, there&#8217;s a whole team involved, it\u2019s not just us anymore. We usually travel with at least seven people, often eight. There are things to rent every time, upfront expenses in the hundreds, or even thousands, of euros. So everything has to be managed properly, professionally, to put on a great show. But once we\u2019re on stage, or just after the show, the vibe is the same. What\u2019s changed is what happens behind the scenes: you have to plan better, manage the budget, handle logistics. Even something like merchandising, you have to print thousands of euros\u2019 worth of stock before a tour. The investments are totally different now. Everything\u2019s more thought-out, you could say.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Speaking of Twilight Force, it\u2019s been quite a few years since you joined. How are things going? How do you juggle two bands that are so different?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s been about 7 or 8 years now, I think. Things are going really well\u2014we\u2019ve had a major lineup change recently, with three new members joining. It was a pretty big shift, kind of destabilizing at first, but it also brought fresh energy and a great new vibe within the band. I\u2019m not involved in songwriting for Twilight Force; Daniel, the keyboardist, handles all of that, and he\u2019s currently working on wrapping up the new album. Recently, we played at 70000 Tons of Metal and ProgPower, and the shows were fantastic. We&#8217;ve already got several gigs lined up in the near future.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>I saw on social media that you guys played Magic: The Gathering on the 70000 Tons of Metal cruise\u2026<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeah, we did a Magic tournament where fans could challenge us, in collaboration with Wizards of the Coast. They sent a huge load of booster boxes to the ship, which we ended up taking home after the event, so that was awesome. We spent the whole afternoon playing; over 300 people wanted to challenge us. Not everyone got a chance to play, but the turnout was unexpectedly huge, even for Wizards. No one expected that many people on the cruise to be into Magic, and playing at such a high level, too. We played about twenty matches, and everyone knew what they were doing. It wasn\u2019t like teaching beginners; these were real games. It was such a success that they might want to do it again next year. We\u2019ll see!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>On the nerdy side of things, what was the last board game you played?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>I mostly play Magic, even competitively sometimes. About a month ago, I entered my last tournament\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Commander or Legacy format?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>No, no, I prefer Sealed or Booster Draft. I love building decks on the spot where everyone\u2019s on equal footing. I don\u2019t play constructed formats much anymore, so mostly I play on Arena. But on April 11, there\u2019s the pre-release for the new Tarkir expansion, I think\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Yeah, the one with the dragons! And there\u2019s also a Final Fantasy set coming up\u2026<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Exactly! That\u2019s going to be a serious drain on the wallet. As for video games, I recently played <em><strong>Return to Monkey Island<\/strong><\/em>, actually while I was writing a new song. I don\u2019t have much time for gaming anymore because of work, but I have two teenage kids. The last games my younger son finished were <em>Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom<\/em>, <em>Breath of the Wild<\/em>, and both <em>The Last of Us<\/em> titles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Wow, I remember your youngest when he was just a little kid\u2026 and now he\u2019s into gaming!<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Yeah, he\u2019s 9 now, and Morgan is almost 16.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>What about role-playing games?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Nah, I don\u2019t really play them. I used to play D&amp;D a long time ago, but I never really went deep into it. Now I hang out at this club, a critical thinking kind of place, in Modena where a lot of people are into it. They\u2019re totally immersed in that super nerdy world. I try to stay a bit away from it because otherwise I\u2019d never get any work done, I wouldn\u2019t make a dime anymore! <em>(laughs)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Alright, last question. Is there anything you&#8217;d like to say to the fans of Trick or Treat or the readers of Heavyworlds?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>First of all, thanks to you, Pinka, for the interview! And to all the fans: if you want to come see us live in Italy, we\u2019ll be playing in Modena on April 24, and then on May 23 at Legend Club in Milan. That one\u2019s going to be a great night, I think. We\u2019ve got two more dates to announce soon as well. Depending on how the promotion goes, we\u2019re hoping to do a proper club tour around Italy starting in September or October. So there\u2019ll definitely be a chance to come see us live and catch up with friends. Don\u2019t miss it! And you too, Pinka, you <em>have<\/em> to come! <em>(laughs)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-13-820x1024.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-36868\" style=\"width:545px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong>[ITA<\/strong>]\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Ciao Alle, quanto tempo! Benvenuto su Heavyworlds.com, come vanno le cose?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Ciao Pinka, come stai? Bene, son qua, vado in tour e bene.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Bene bene grazie, si fanno mille cose come al solito, non sono cambiata su quel fronte (ride ndr), immagino tra Trick or Treat e Twilight force, sei super busy!<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Eh s\u00ec, eh, abbastanza busy!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Come sta andando la promozione del nuovo album?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Sta andando bene, abbiamo fatto un bel tour con i Nanowar e i Dynazty, siamo tornati a casa da circa dieci giorni\/due settimane. In realt\u00e0 non era propriamente una promozione dell&#8217;album nuovo, ma abbiamo suonato un paio di brani nuovi, e sembrano essere stati accolti bene. Poi, adesso, tra poco, nelle prossime settimane, partir\u00e0 la promozione seria!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>&#8220;<em>Ghosted<\/em>&#8221; segna un nuovo capitolo per i Trick or Treat, con un mix di power metal e atmosfere horror. Come \u00e8 nata l&#8217;idea di fondere il lato pi\u00f9 ironico e spensierato della vostra musica con questo lato horror?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00c8 nato dopo &#8220;<strong><em>Creepy Symphonies<\/em><\/strong>&#8220;, dove avevamo gi\u00e0 accennato un po&#8217; a queste atmosfere, in qualche canzone. Ha funzionato bene e secondo me ora ci identificano un po&#8217; meglio con questo sound, ci distinguono nel mare di band power metal che ci sono. Penso che questo tratto distintivo nel nostro sound possa dirci qualcosa in pi\u00f9, quindi abbiamo spinto un po&#8217; su quel lato, per\u00f2 sempre con una vena ironica. Diciamo, non proprio horror, ma pi\u00f9 con piccoli brividi, piuttosto che horror vero e proprio!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Ma c&#8217;\u00e8 stato un momento preciso in cui avete deciso &#8220;ok, questo sar\u00e0 il nostro nuovo concept&#8221;, cio\u00e8 il tema horror?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>S\u00ec, diciamo che le primissime canzoni che abbiamo scritto con Luca, le prime che abbiamo fatto, sono state proprio &#8220;<strong><em>Ghosted<\/em><\/strong>&#8221; e &#8220;<strong><em>Bloodmoon<\/em><\/strong>&#8220;, che hanno un taglio abbastanza horror. Poi lui ha scritto un&#8217;altra canzone un po&#8217; su questo mood, e abbiamo scritto anche &#8220;<strong><em>Dance With The Dancing Clown<\/em><\/strong>&#8220;, che rientra in questo stesso mood. Ci piaceva come stava venendo, quindi abbiamo deciso di tenere quel filone l\u00ec. In realt\u00e0, per\u00f2, abbiamo anche inserito canzoni pi\u00f9 tradizionalmente power metal, come &#8220;<strong><em>Make A Difference<\/em><\/strong>&#8221; o &#8220;<strong>Polybius<\/strong>&#8220;, che non hanno niente di horror, sono pi\u00f9 in stile &#8220;<em>Trick or Treat old style<\/em>&#8220;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Parlando della tracklist, avete scelto una sequenza precisa per le canzoni, magari cercando di avere anche un filo narrativo, oppure \u00e8 stata una decisione spontanea?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>No, non c&#8217;\u00e8 nessun filo narrativo perch\u00e9 tutte le canzoni sono sconnesse tra di loro, anche se c&#8217;\u00e8 un filone un po&#8217; della cultura horror pop. Per\u00f2 abbiamo pensato principalmente al flow della tracklist, che in un disco power metal di solito inizia con una bella speed song. In realt\u00e0, questa volta no, abbiamo iniziato con &#8220;<strong><em>Craven Road<\/em><\/strong>&#8220;, che \u00e8 quasi un mid-tempo. La prima volta non \u00e8 una canzone molto veloce, per\u00f2 aveva l&#8217;intro che si attaccava bene, nella stessa tonalit\u00e0. Poi abbiamo messo &#8220;<strong><em>Bloodmoon<\/em><\/strong>&#8221; subito dopo, quindi \u00e8 quasi un opener. Dopo, abbiamo alternato un po&#8217;, accostando canzoni veloci a canzoni meno veloci per dare alternanza e non annoiare.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>&#8220;<em>Evil Dead Never Sleeps<\/em>&#8221; \u00e8 il vostro tributo a Army of Darkness e alla saga di Evil Dead. Come avete cercato di ricreare musicalmente l&#8217;atmosfera grottesca di questi film?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Quello \u00e8 un brano che ha scritto Guido, interamente Guido, sia testo che musica, ed \u00e8 ovviamente un suo film preferito, insomma, un cult horror. Per\u00f2 si sposa molto bene, secondo me, con l&#8217;attitudine anche di Trick or Treat, perch\u00e9 \u00e8 un film horror che ha molte cose che fanno anche sorridere. Quindi ci piaceva l&#8217;idea. Non l&#8217;abbiamo deciso a tavolino, in realt\u00e0 &#8220;<strong><em>Evil Dead<\/em><\/strong>&#8221; era gi\u00e0 scritta la musica senza testo. Poi, pensando al testo, abbiamo scartato un po&#8217; i vari film che potevano starci, e quello si sposava bene. C&#8217;\u00e8 anche un intermezzo un po&#8217; gotico, con i cori epici, dove si dice che la tua verit\u00e0 \u00e8 annientata o qualcosa del genere. Pensando a quella frase, ci sembrava perfetta per quel momento, e quindi Guido ha scritto il testo basandosi su quel mood.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Invece, &#8220;<em>Bitter Dreams&#8221;<\/em>, ispirata a Nightmare on Elm Street, come avete giocato con le melodie e l&#8217;atmosfera per evocare l&#8217;incubo e il terrore tipico di Freddy Krueger?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>S\u00ec, allora l\u00ec parte come una ballad, in realt\u00e0, come una ninna nanna. Anche questo brano \u00e8 stato scritto interamente da Guido, per\u00f2 parte come una ninna nanna che inizialmente lascia un po&#8217; spiazzati, nel senso che non sembra un film horror, ma piuttosto una canzone che parla di un film horror. Volevamo dare l&#8217;impressione che fosse quasi una ninna nanna che ti fa addormentare, per poi partire con un&#8217;energia pi\u00f9 aggressiva. Ha ripreso anche le musiche, il tema principale di Nightmare, come citazione, ovviamente. Sul finale ci sono i cori delle bambine che cantano, che sono proprio i cori veri del film, estrapolati. Speriamo che nessuno ci denunci (<em>ride, ndr)<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>\u00a0Io non so nulla!<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecco, abbiamo fatto un po&#8217; di easter egg dentro, ma la canzone ha una chiusura pi\u00f9 lunga.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Oltre a ispirarvi a film horror, vi siete anche ispirati a videogiochi, come Return to Monkey Island. Cos&#8217;avete spinto a dedicare una canzone in un album cos\u00ec incentrato sull&#8217;horror?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Perch\u00e9 siamo stati in tour lo scorso anno, e anche un anno e mezzo fa, con gli Alestorm, per alcune date, e siamo diventati abbastanza amici, soprattutto con Chris. Io ho collaborato con lui sul suo progetto parallelo agli Alestorm, che si chiama Fr\u00f8gg\u00eb. Non \u00e8 uscito un disco, ma ne abbiamo realizzati un paio di singoli che sono andati abbastanza bene. Per\u00f2 non \u00e8 un vero e proprio progetto discografico. Abbiamo stretto un buon legame e, stando tanto tempo in tour con gli Alestorm, abbiamo pensato: &#8220;<em>Perch\u00e9 non facciamo un pezzo un po&#8217; pi\u00f9 piratesco?<\/em>&#8220;. Allora ho detto: se piratesco, a tema con quello che trattiamo noi, Monkey Island \u00e8 uno dei miei videogiochi preferiti di sempre, fare un tributo a quello con Chris sarebbe una bomba. Cos\u00ec abbiamo scritto la canzone apposta per Chris, pensando di scrivere una canzone per gli Alestorm. Per noi era una canzone che potevamo dare agli Alestorm e dire: &#8220;<em>Suonatela nel vostro album<\/em>&#8220;. Poi, in realt\u00e0, anche l\u00ec abbiamo inserito, Luca ha aggiunto degli arrangiamenti molto creepy, come scale e cos\u00ec, quindi \u00e8 diventato quasi una &#8220;creepy pirate&#8221; song, che secondo me \u00e8 un buon connubio. Insomma, \u00e8 nato tutto attorno al guest. Di solito i guest si decidono a brano finito, ma in questo caso abbiamo pensato: &#8220;<em>Che brano potremmo scrivere per Chris?<\/em>&#8220;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Invece un&#8217;altra guest dell&#8217;album \u00e8 Adrienne Cowen,\u00a0come \u00e8 nata la collaborazione con lei?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00c8 nata perch\u00e9 siamo stati in tour insieme con i Twilight Force. I Seven Spires hanno fatto da supporto ai Twilight Force durante il tour europeo, dove i Twilight Force erano headliner. Anche l\u00ec, s\u00ec, noi avevamo gi\u00e0 collaborato con Adrienne per la cover di Frozen, quindi ci conoscevamo, anche se non di persona. Per\u00f2 insomma, un mese in tour insieme, abbiamo fatto amicizia. \u00c8 una persona molto talentuosa, veramente una persona figa. Allora, abbiamo pensato che, gi\u00e0 quando eravamo in tour insieme, mi sarebbe piaciuto registrare qualcosa con lei. Infatti, lei nell&#8217;ultimo album dei Seven Spires ha scritto due canzoni. Una canzone in cui duettiamo proprio al 50% e una canzone dove intervengo su una piccola parte. Quindi, comunque, due canzoni mi ha chiamato come guest. Abbiamo fatto un brano anche l\u00ec, sapendo che ci sarebbe stata lei, quindi anche in questo caso \u00e8 stato un po&#8217; cucito su di lei. Ho pensato a un&#8217;atmosfera un po&#8217; pi\u00f9 gotica, un po&#8217; alla Kamelot, e cos\u00ec, perch\u00e9 poi Castlevania, anche la canzone stessa, \u00e8 dedicata a Castlevania, un altro videogioco. Infatti, proprio mentre eravamo in tour, \u00e8 stata lei a farmi conoscere la serie anime di Castlevania su Netflix. Mentre eravamo in tour, me l&#8217;ha fatta vedere perch\u00e9 \u00e8 molto figa, cos\u00ec nei giorni di pausa e nei day off, me la sono guardata. Infatti, praticamente la canzone copre i primi due episodi dell&#8217;anime, dove Dracula si sposa con un umano, e poi gli umani uccidono la moglie di Dracula, e lui fa un casino, giustamente. Un po&#8217; cos\u00ec.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Questo lo devo recuperare, mi manca, lo recuperer\u00f2. Durante questi anni avete collaborato con anche grandi nomi, ma c&#8217;\u00e8 ancora qualcuno con cui sognate di lavorare, sia come guest che in tour?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>In tour, chiunque sia pi\u00f9 grosso di noi nella scena power metal, per noi \u00e8 un&#8217;opportunit\u00e0 lavorativa, ci fa piacere aprire e lavorare insieme. Diciamo che ti direi Helloween, ma alla fine ci abbiamo gi\u00e0 fatto il tour con gli Helloween, quindi va bene. No, ci sono tante band, per\u00f2 onestamente abbiamo gi\u00e0 collaborato con la maggior parte delle band di cui eravamo fan. Prima o poi ci abbiamo gi\u00e0 collaborato. Siamo stati in tour con Helloween, con Stratovarius, con Sonata Arctica, quindi gi\u00e0 i nostri miti, quando eravamo ragazzini, li abbiamo gi\u00e0 condivisi sul palco. Questo non vuol dire che non ci farebbe piacere condividere ancora il palco, perch\u00e9 no? Per\u00f2, invece, come guest, ce ne sono tantissimi. Kotipelto, per esempio, \u00e8 uno con cui avevamo invitato anni fa, ma non riusc\u00ec per impegni suoi. Doveva cantare una canzone su <strong><em>Rabbits&#8217; Hill Part 1<\/em><\/strong>, gli avevamo offerto, ma non partecip\u00f2. Per\u00f2 s\u00ec, \u00e8 un nome storico con cui non abbiamo collaborato. Gli altri, a parte alcuni nomi magari giganti che non sono affrontabili, con tanti altri abbiamo gi\u00e0 collaborato, quindi mi ritengo molto fortunato.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Tornando al disco, l&#8217;artwork dell&#8217;album \u00e8 stato realizzato da te. Quali sono stati gli elementi fondamentali che volevi assolutamente includere nella copertina?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Nella copertina io tendenzialmente, non sempre per\u00f2, cerco di inserire degli easter egg delle canzoni. L&#8217;ho gi\u00e0 fatto nella copertina di &#8220;<strong><em>Reanimated<\/em><\/strong>&#8220;, &#8220;<strong><em>Creepy Symphonies<\/em><\/strong>&#8221; no, per\u00f2 in questo album c&#8217;\u00e8 un richiamo a ogni canzone, ma alcuni sono veramente difficili da vedere, da trovare, per\u00f2 ci sono riferimenti per ogni canzone. Poi, &#8220;<strong><em>Ghosted&#8221;<\/em><\/strong> richiamava un po&#8217; l&#8217;atmosfera. Si sposava perfettamente sia con la canzone, che ci piaceva usare come title track, poi anche per il nome corto. Io volevo per questo album una parola sola, perch\u00e9 abbiamo sempre usato parole composte, frasi, e &#8220;<strong><em>Ghosted<\/em><\/strong>&#8221; era perfetta, perch\u00e9 \u00e8 una canzone che, tra l&#8217;altro, \u00e8 molto importante all&#8217;interno dell&#8217;album, sia come messaggio che come contenuto. E poi ci identifica anche un po&#8217; on stage, perch\u00e9 utilizziamo i fantasmi giganti gonfiabili, che negli ultimi tour sono diventati un po&#8217; caratterizzanti per la nostra scenografia, quindi potevamo enfatizzare ancora di pi\u00f9 questo elemento, e tutto si sposa perfettamente.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"548\" src=\"https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-1-1024x548.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-36871\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-1-1024x548.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-1-300x160.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-1-768x411.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-1-1536x821.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-1-810x433.jpg 810w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-1-1140x610.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-14-1.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Il mondo del metal, in particolare del power metal, ha sempre avuto un forte legame con l&#8217;iconografia, il fantasy e, a volte, anche l&#8217;horror. Secondo te, oggi \u00e8 ancora importante avere un&#8217;estetica ben definita, oppure la musica dovrebbe parlare da sola?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Beh, la musica dovrebbe sempre poter parlare da sola, perch\u00e9 se la musica non parla, e hai una buona estetica, non serve a niente. Oggi, per\u00f2, rispetto a prima, l&#8217;estetica \u00e8 molto pi\u00f9 importante, perch\u00e9 a livello di social si condividono molti pi\u00f9 immagini, molti pi\u00f9 video. L&#8217;identit\u00e0 di una band passa molto di pi\u00f9 attraverso un&#8217;identit\u00e0 visiva rispetto al passato. Prima magari la band la vedevi ogni tre anni quando usciva il CD, l&#8217;intervista sul giornale con una sessione foto, e poi se passavano da vicino alla tua citt\u00e0 per un live. Adesso, invece, se fai un post online ogni settimana, la vedi sempre, quindi l&#8217;immaginario della band deve essere un po&#8217; pi\u00f9\u2026 non deve essere, per\u00f2 tendenzialmente \u00e8 pi\u00f9 curato. Questo porta anche a degli estremi come il &#8220;<em>Cosplay Metal<\/em>&#8220;, come i Twilight Force, che hanno puntato tanto sull&#8217;immagine, oppure posso dire i Wind Rose, o anche tante altre band che hanno puntato tanto sull&#8217;immagine oltre che sulla musica. Per me non \u00e8 un difetto, anzi \u00e8 un valore aggiunto quando la musica ha qualcosa da dire e l&#8217;immagine fa da valore aggiunto. Quando la musica fa schifo e l&#8217;immagine lascia comunque il tempo che trova, non d\u00e0 niente alla band. Per\u00f2, tendenzialmente, adesso si tende di pi\u00f9 a personalizzare anche l&#8217;immaginario oltre che la musica. Non basta pi\u00f9 fare musica, cio\u00e8 se non fai buona musica non vai da nessuna parte, ma non basta pi\u00f9 solo fare buona musica.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Tornando sempre a &#8220;Ghosted&#8221;, avete registrato l&#8217;album con Simone Mularoni, un produttore con cui avete gi\u00e0 lavorato in passato. Com&#8217;\u00e8 stato tornare in studio con lui? C&#8217;\u00e8 stato anche qualche momento particolare in cui ha dato un contributo decisivo all&#8217;album?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>S\u00ec, Mularoni ha sempre dato un contributo decisivo. Se fai conto, tutti gli album dei Trick or Treat, a parte uno, perch\u00e9 quello dei Cavalieri dello Zodiaco non riusciva a seguire la produzione, dato che abbiamo fatto un brano al mese per un anno, ma dal 2005 ha lavorato con noi. Uno dei suoi primi dischi che ha prodotto \u00e8 stato &#8220;<strong><em>Evil Needs Candy Too<\/em><\/strong>&#8220;, quindi \u00e8 stato il nostro primo, forse il suo primo addirittura, non ne sono sicuro, per\u00f2 uno dei primi di sicuro. Quindi ci conosce proprio perfettamente e d\u00e0 sempre un contributo fondamentale. Noi spesso arriviamo in studio con il pezzo finito al 90%, per\u00f2 dicendo che sappiamo che ci manca un arrangiamento figo o qualcosa, chiediamo a lui la sua opinione e ci\u00f2 che dice \u00e8 sempre vincente. Perch\u00e9 \u00e8 un orecchio esterno alla band. Io ho le mie linee vocali, gli altri me le registrano come voglio che suonino. Poi magari arrivi in studio e mi dice &#8220;<em>ma perch\u00e9 hai messo questa nota? Guarda che se la risolvi cos\u00ec, suona molto meglio.<\/em>&#8220;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>C&#8217;\u00e8 stato un momento divertente durante le registrazioni di Ghosted? Un episodio divertente?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>No, \u00e8 stato tutto sempre tendenzialmente abbastanza divertente. L&#8217;atmosfera \u00e8 sempre super rilassata. Questa volta, ma anche le ultime, i giorni di produzione sono talmente serrati, perch\u00e9 non abbiamo tantissimi giorni per stare in studio, che si lavora molto velocemente. Le cose divertenti magari erano le pause pranzo, quando andavamo al ristorante da Sara Squadrani, che adesso \u00e8 un ristorante a Rimini. E allora andavamo da Squadrani a mangiare i tortellini\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Bravi, bravi! Ci devo ancora andare, prima o poi devo passare da Saretta per forza. Invece, se potessi tornare indietro e far cantare una leggenda del metal, che appunto non c&#8217;\u00e8 pi\u00f9, in una delle vostre canzoni, chi sceglieresti e su quale brano?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Ronnie James Dio su Premonition di Rabbits Hill parte 1. Premonition era una canzone scritta da Cabri, che ora non suona pi\u00f9 con noi, per\u00f2 era un po&#8217; pensata alla Rainbow, un po&#8217; come tematica. Oppure sarebbe stato perfetto anche su una delle canzoni di Toro su Cavalieri dello Zodiaco, una di quelle due l\u00ec.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Avete un pubblico affezionatissimo in Italia, ma anche all&#8217;estero siete molto amati. Dove avete\u00a0\u00a0trovato i fan pi\u00f9 calorosi all&#8217;estero? C&#8217;\u00e8 un paese in cui suonare \u00e8 sempre un&#8217;esperienza speciale?\u00a0<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Allora, Sud America. Ci siamo stati una volta sola recentemente e ci hanno dimostrato un calore particolare, bello tosto, figo. In Giappone c&#8217;\u00e8 una fanbase molto affezionata, in generale per il metal europeo. Quando ci siamo andati due volte con i Trick or Treat, poi ci siamo tornati due volte con i Twilight Force, i concerti sono sempre sold-out, quindi \u00e8 sempre figo. In Europa, invece, torno sempre volentieri a Budapest, in Ungheria, perch\u00e9 abbiamo fatto dei bellissimi show l\u00ec, anche recentemente. Abbiamo suonato due volte al Barba Negra a Budapest nell&#8217;arco di sei mesi, ed \u00e8 il locale metal pi\u00f9 bello che c&#8217;\u00e8 l\u00ec. Poi, l\u00ec, abbiamo scritto &#8220;<strong><em>Hungarian Hangover<\/em><\/strong>&#8220;, quindi \u00e8 stato un buon successo per la band, perch\u00e9 penso che su Spotify sia uno dei brani pi\u00f9 ascoltati. Inoltre, la nostra booking agency \u00e8 di Budapest, quindi ci torner\u00f2 volentieri.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>C&#8217;\u00e8 mai stato qualcosa di inaspettato durante i live? Un errore sul palco?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>L&#8217;ultimo tour, l&#8217;ultimissimo tour, avevamo una scaletta corta, solo 40 minuti, e noi suoniamo a metronomo con le basi di tastiera registrate. Quindi per forza devi suonare a tempo e suonare quelle canzoni che hai scelto. Ogni sera facevamo un cambio di scaletta, non suonando per tantissimo tempo, ma suonando in posti che avevamo gi\u00e0 fatto mesi prima. Ora, avvicinandoci a un concerto dall&#8217;altro, ogni sera cambiavamo la scaletta di due o tre pezzi. Ci siamo ritrovati una sera in cui dovevamo fare tipo otto pezzi, mi sembra fosse &#8220;<strong><em>Evil Needs Candy Too<\/em><\/strong>&#8220;, e ho detto che il prossimo pezzo era &#8220;<strong><em>Evil Needs Candy Too<\/em><\/strong>&#8220;, ma Dario aveva caricato una canzone in meno nel mixer perch\u00e9 se n&#8217;era dimenticato. Abbiamo annunciato la canzone, ma non \u00e8 partita, quindi l&#8217;abbiamo saltata. Abbiamo fatto una canzone in meno quella sera, ma l&#8217;ho tirata un po&#8217; per le lunghe a parlare per recuperare.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"994\" src=\"https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-12-1-1024x994.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-36872\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-12-1-1024x994.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-12-1-300x291.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-12-1-768x745.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-12-1-810x786.jpg 810w, https:\/\/www.heavyworlds.com\/it\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/unnamed-12-1.jpg 1125w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Dopo cos\u00ec tanti anni di carriera, cosa significa per te fare musica oggi? \u00c8 cambiato il tuo modo di vivere questa passione rispetto agli inizi?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>No, sinceramente no. \u00c8 cambiato che \u00e8 diventato tutto pi\u00f9 professionale. Prima, soprattutto nei primi anni, ogni scusa era buona per andare su un palco a suonare, in qualsiasi condizione. Adesso, ovviamente, c&#8217;\u00e8 un entourage; non siamo pi\u00f9 solo noi, ci muoviamo con almeno sette persone, ma di solito otto. Ci sono cose da noleggiare ogni volta, spese vive che escono di centinaia di euro, o anche di pi\u00f9, e quindi adesso c&#8217;\u00e8 tutto un entourage che devi far quadrare nei conti. C&#8217;\u00e8 una gestione pi\u00f9 professionale, pi\u00f9 impostata, ed \u00e8 giusto anche per fare un bel show. Per\u00f2, quando sali sul palco, anche dopo lo show, l&#8217;attitudine \u00e8 sempre quella. Poi magari, quando torni a casa, devi fare i conteggi di tutto, preparare molto meglio il tour. Banalmente, anche il merchandising, devi stampare migliaia di euro di cose per partire. Insomma, anche gli investimenti sono proprio diversi. Tutto un po&#8217; pi\u00f9 ponderato, diciamo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Parlando di Twilight Force, sono passati un po&#8217; di anni da quando sei l\u00ec dentro, come sta andando? Come fai a giostrarti tra due band cos\u00ec diverse?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Sono passati 8 anni, mi sembra. S\u00ec, 7-8 anni. Stanno andando molto bene, abbiamo cambiato tre elementi nella line-up recentemente, quindi \u00e8 stato un bel cambio all&#8217;interno della band, un po&#8217; destabilizzante, ma anche rinvigorente dal punto di vista del mood all&#8217;interno della band. Io non partecipo come songwriter in quella band, ma Daniel, il tastierista, si occupa di tutto e sta lavorando per ultimare il nuovo album. Recentemente siamo stati al 70000 Tons of Metal, siamo stati al Prog Power, e abbiamo fatto dei bei concerti. Ci sono gi\u00e0 diversi show nel prossimo futuro.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Avete anche giocato a Magic, ho visto sui social, al 70000 Tons of Metal\u2026<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>S\u00ec, abbiamo fatto un torneo di Magic dove la gente poteva sfidarci, in collaborazione con la Wizards of the Coast, che ha mandato un botto di box sulla nave, che poi ci siamo portati a casa noi a fine evento, quindi top. Ci siamo ritrovati a giocare, c&#8217;erano pi\u00f9 di 300 partecipanti a giocare contro di noi, quindi siamo stati tutto il pomeriggio l\u00ec, ma non tutti sono riusciti a giocare. Per\u00f2 \u00e8 stato un evento inaspettatamente positivo anche per loro come feedback, perch\u00e9 nessuno si immaginava che pi\u00f9 di 300 persone sulla nave giocassero a Magic, anche a un livello piuttosto alto. Abbiamo fatto una ventina di partite e sapevano tutti giocare bene, quindi non era come insegnare a giocare, tipo tutorial, ma erano partite serie. Ora vediamo, perch\u00e9 sembra che sia piaciuto, magari vogliono rifarlo anche l&#8217;anno prossimo, vediamo un po\u2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Parlando appunto di lato nerd, qual \u00e8 stato il tuo ultimo gioco da tavolo a cui hai giocato?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Da tavolo io gioco tanto a Magic, anche a livello di tornei cos\u00ec. Un mesetto fa ho fatto l&#8217;ultimo torneo\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>.Ma formato Commander o Legacy?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>No, no, io faccio Sealed o Booster Draft. Mi piace il Booster e fare i mazzi l\u00ec, cos\u00ec tutti sono alla pari. Perch\u00e9 real non gioco pi\u00f9 tanto, quindi gioco su Arena, per\u00f2 per il 11 aprile ci sar\u00e0 la pre-release della nuova espansione di Tarkir, mi sembra&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>si quella dei draghi.. tra l&#8217;altro c&#8217;\u00e8 anche quella di Final Fantasy in arrivo&#8230;<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>S\u00ec, infatti sono tanti soldi che partiranno. Videogiochi, ho giocato a <strong><em>Return to Monkey Island<\/em><\/strong>, proprio mentre scrivevo la canzone recentemente. Poi, io non gioco pi\u00f9 tantissimo, con il lavoro sono strapieno, per\u00f2 avendo due figli adolescenti, gli ultimi giochi che ha finito mio figlio piccolo sono stati Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom e Breath of the Wild, e i due Last of Us.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Mamma mia, il piccolo me lo ricordo piccolo addirittura.. ora gioca, pensa te!<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>S\u00ec, ora ha&nbsp;9 anni, Morgan invece ne ha quasi 16. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Invece giochi di ruolo?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>No, non ne faccio. Giocavo a D&amp;D ma un botto di anni fa, non ho mai approfondito tanto. Adesso frequento un circolo, uno critico, che giocano tanto a Modena, e vedo che sono sempre immerso in quel mondo super nerd. Cerco di starne un po&#8217; fuori perch\u00e9 poi non fatturo pi\u00f9 niente, non lavoro pi\u00f9 (ride ndr).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Dai, era l&#8217;ultima domanda. Cosa vorresti dire ai fans dei Trick or Treat o ai lettori di Heavyworlds?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Io ringrazio te, Pinka, per l&#8217;intervista e poi dico che, se vogliono venire a sentirci nelle date italiane, suoneremo a Modena il 24 aprile (non so se esce l&#8217;intervista presto), altrimenti il 23 maggio al Legend a Milano. Secondo me quella sar\u00e0 una bella serata, e poi avremo altre due date che annunceremo a breve. Vediamo come va la promozione, l&#8217;idea era poi, da settembre\/ottobre, tornare a fare un giro nei club in Italia. L&#8217;occasione di vedersi live e vedere un po&#8217; di amici ci sar\u00e0. Non mancate! Anche te, Pinka, bisogna che vieni! 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